How to make a poltergeist

Today I have been flooded with links from people that report to the same story on numerous news websites. It’s the story about the Manning family who claim they are being harrassed by a poltergeist.

The activity is reported as follows:

Ashtrays have been flung through the air and they once came home to find their dog lying motionless at the bottom of the stairs, with serious injuries. Vets said it was as if their pet, who later died, had been pushed down the stairs in their home.

And if you were thinking there’s no such thing as ghosts – the sinister happenings have been caught on a secret camera set up by Miss Manning’s partner.

In what could be a scene from horror flick Paranormal Activity, the footage shows a chair sliding across the room as cupboard doors slam open and shut. After seeing the video, housing association Whitefriars is now helping relocate the family.

It certainly does sound siniter and scary and upon reading that there was video evidence I became intrigued. Here is the video proof:

Something didn’t see quite right about the video and I felt that the whole thing looked a bit staged. I intended to see if I could recreate the effects seen in the video when I got home later that day.

When I did arrive home I found that there was a copy of todays Metro newspaper waiting for me with a full page article on this story, it was unignorable. So, after dinner, and with the help of fellow BARsoc researcher, Sharon, we set about seeing if we could recreate the activity the video that apparently convinced a housing association to move a family into a new home.

Turns out we could. Quite easily. It was also slightly fun…(warning: contains swearing)

To create a poltergeist you will need:

1 x key ‘fob’ on extendable cord
1 x reel of fishing thread/wire
1 x roll of sellotape
1 x pair of scissors
a bit of imagination

We didn’t have fishing wire available and only had black cotton to hand (which is why you can see it if you know where to look).This also took us about fifteen minutes to do – had we put more effort in it could have been a much smoother operation.

I also made a creative decision at the last second and decided to throw the chair for dramatic effect. I didn’t take into account that Sharons foot might be in the way. You can sort of see me panicking as I try to pull it off of her foot (thus why you see the black thread waving around so much).

So, in summary, we find it rather confusing that the family would have such a dodgy video attached to their story if they had really, sincerely, honestly had the experiences they claim to. It smacks of being a case of people trying to move house and using the poltergeist idea to make it happen.

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About Hayley Stevens

Hayley Stevens is a podcaster, blogger, writer, public speaker and ghost geek. She likes tea, cake, sci-fi books and being a humanist.

Posted on March 29, 2011, in ghost, media, paranormal, pop culture paranormal and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 76 Comments.

  1. There is also the possibility of there being someone in the cupboard, as with the Pantry Ghost video debunked by Captain D.

  2. There is also the possibility of there being someone in the cupboard, as with the Pantry Ghost video debunked by Captain D.

  3. The advert at the top of this article promises to remove 100% of evil spirits. (http://www.fortunevoice.com/)

    It made me lol.

  4. The advert at the top of this article promises to remove 100% of evil spirits. (http://www.fortunevoice.com/)

    It made me lol.

  5. Lazy ghost cannot pick the chair up, but drags it across the floor. Handy that they managed to set up the camera at the spot it was all happening, or is there hours of video with stuff not happening too? I think fishing wire might be a little too sophisticated, you don’t see the base of the chair so it could be someone on the floor pushing it. You can’t even see the bottom of the door either, so it can be pulled open by someone behind the bed. Did any children get sucked into the television?

    • Yes we think we gave them too much credit, but if we’d had the time or patience we would have used fishing wire. We didn’t have general clutter in our kitchen to conceal the wire.

  6. Lazy ghost cannot pick the chair up, but drags it across the floor. Handy that they managed to set up the camera at the spot it was all happening, or is there hours of video with stuff not happening too? I think fishing wire might be a little too sophisticated, you don’t see the base of the chair so it could be someone on the floor pushing it. You can’t even see the bottom of the door either, so it can be pulled open by someone behind the bed. Did any children get sucked into the television?

    • Yes we think we gave them too much credit, but if we’d had the time or patience we would have used fishing wire. We didn’t have general clutter in our kitchen to conceal the wire.

  7. So that’s how you get the council to follow through with their promise to move you!!
    Wait…What’s that?? Doors opening and closing…chairs moving…. My dog just flew through the air!! Video time! πŸ˜‰

  8. So that’s how you get the council to follow through with their promise to move you!!
    Wait…What’s that?? Doors opening and closing…chairs moving…. My dog just flew through the air!! Video time! πŸ˜‰

  9. The story in The Daily Mail adds that a medium has advised the family that they’ve got a ‘portal’ in their home. We’re only missing the Indian burial ground and we’ve got the full set. I’ve done a full response to everything covered in this story on BadPsychics.

  10. The story in The Daily Mail adds that a medium has advised the family that they’ve got a ‘portal’ in their home. We’re only missing the Indian burial ground and we’ve got the full set. I’ve done a full response to everything covered in this story on BadPsychics.

  11. Err why isn’t it definitely true? How do u KNOW? That it’s not that maybe ghosts opening doors to be polite? Afterall they are guests in the houses aretn they? Any-way I truly beleive in Poltergeists, as I have to think that they can be real because of what it might mean for death and the after-life. They can be vital PROOF that existence is so ultematly point-less and futile that it’s possible after your dead to spend forever being a ghost and mildy inconveniencing strangers by chucking their lighter items of furniture about, dicking around with clocks, and maybe even flicking a few lights on and off too. May as well enjoy life if that’s what eternity has in store eh!!

  12. Err why isn’t it definitely true? How do u KNOW? That it’s not that maybe ghosts opening doors to be polite? Afterall they are guests in the houses aretn they? Any-way I truly beleive in Poltergeists, as I have to think that they can be real because of what it might mean for death and the after-life. They can be vital PROOF that existence is so ultematly point-less and futile that it’s possible after your dead to spend forever being a ghost and mildy inconveniencing strangers by chucking their lighter items of furniture about, dicking around with clocks, and maybe even flicking a few lights on and off too. May as well enjoy life if that’s what eternity has in store eh!!

  13. Lewis, how do you know it’s definitely true?. Are you suggesting that the entity opened the wardrobe door to be polite?. If you already truly believe in ghosts and poltergeists then you’re biased to stories like this being evidence of the supernatural and as such not likely to accept more rational explanations – even when they’re clearly demonstrated by the investigators on this site.

  14. Lewis, how do you know it’s definitely true?. Are you suggesting that the entity opened the wardrobe door to be polite?. If you already truly believe in ghosts and poltergeists then you’re biased to stories like this being evidence of the supernatural and as such not likely to accept more rational explanations – even when they’re clearly demonstrated by the investigators on this site.

  15. It was the ‘I truly believe in poltergeists line’ that gave me the impression Lewis was being serious. If you’re still out there Lewis please accept my apologies if I’ve read your post wrong.

    • That’s OK, I can see you and might be serious because of what I said and it’s supanaturel but I hope that when we’re dead we see everything and get to bang on walls, break a few ornaments and maybe move a coffee table as that’s how to be dead.

  16. It was the ‘I truly believe in poltergeists line’ that gave me the impression Lewis was being serious. If you’re still out there Lewis please accept my apologies if I’ve read your post wrong.

    • That’s OK, I can see you and might be serious because of what I said and it’s supanaturel but I hope that when we’re dead we see everything and get to bang on walls, break a few ornaments and maybe move a coffee table as that’s how to be dead.

  17. Enjoyable replication Hayley!

    I’m intrigued by this concluding sentence however: “It smacks of being a case of people trying to move house and using the poltergeist idea to make it happen.” This is a similar statement to the hundreds on the net that are of the opinion the family are attempting to get moved. Why are people making these conclusion or proferring such opinions?

    Is it because of the apparent “dodgy” video? If so, then every single frame of video evidence for any other case should be immediately discounted without further investigation rather than saying “due to being unable to see a clear view of the furniture or discount the possibility of trickery we can’t make a definitive statement either way”. The better question is why were they filming that particular part of the room? Or, surely given there limited expertise why would we expect them to film phenomena perfectly?

    Is it because they live in a council house? I’m always criticised for apparently investigating alleged hauntings in stately homes, castles, abandoned prisons etc. Why can’t there be an alleged haunting in a council house.

    Is it because the phenomena can be easily recreated using trickery? The same argument has been presented for most paranormal phenomena – should none of it be investigated?

    Is it because the evidence for poltergeist phenomena throughout history is minimal or peppered with accusations (and proof) of fraud? If so, then this might be a more valid argument but still sceptics should tackle each case independently.

    Not having a rant solely at you, Hayley, as you’ve done what a sceptic should do – question the evidence. But I do get a little peeved at all these so-called “sceptics” and “investigators” forming biased opinions (or even drawing conclusions) solely on the basis of a report in The Sun, a brief interview with the mother, and a short video of supposed phenomena. There seems to be a lot of “jumping on the bandwagon” and immediately denouncing the case as fraud. Who knows what the outcome will be? Let’s not make conclusions or profer supposed expert opinions unless we have enough information to make one.

    • Hello Ciaran,

      Firstly, I didn’t state that it certainly was a case of the family creating this story just to get moved, I said it seemed that way. I wouldn’t reach a conclusion without conducting more research as I’m not that stupid.

      Secondly, you questioned if my thoughts in the article were based on the dodgy video. Well, yes they partly were, because it has been clearly faked. You then said that with that mindset every single frame of other video evidence should be discounted as evidence, but that’s illogical.

      Every video people claim shows some sort of evidence should be treated with equal skepticism and should be assessed indivudally on its merits. In this case it was clearly faked, Are you are suggesting it could be anything else?

      To simply dismiss every single video because one is an obvious fake would be closed minded.

      I’m not sure what you mean when you ask if it’s something to do with them living in a council house. However, it’s not uncommon for people who are desperate to move house who rent from the council or a housing association to use these sorts of things as an excuse. I live in a housing association house and know of other tenants who have done similar. It’s not very common now, but decades ago it was quite common.

      Again though, I didn’t state that this was a sound conclusion I had reached. Today, for example, it has gone to press that Derek Acorah has ‘cleansed’ the house, which opens up other possibilities, like a new TV show or book or tour or something. That sounds cynical I know, but I know too well how paranormal celebrities like Acorah use the media to their advantage.

      As for people ‘jumping on the bandwaggon’ and denouncing the case as fraud – that’s because no strong evidence has been supplied that suggests otherwise. You know how the burden of proof works, and all we have here is a dodgy video and Derek Acorah….

      Also, the idea that because this could be recreated through trickery, as has happened many times in the past, and should none be investigated because of this – I’m not even sure why you’re asking these questions? It’s almost patronising and I don’t appreciate being patronised.

      • Also, re: the ‘trying to move house by creating a ghost’ thing. Ask Tony Youens about this, as he once dealt with a case where tenants were trying to sue their landlord as he hadn’t told them about a ghost.

        Also, Dave Wood from ASSAP and PSI knows quite a bit about relocation hauntings from the Swindon area from decades gone by when it seemed a trend.

        I’m not saying this shouldn’t be investigated, what I’m saying is that is seems dodgy from the evidence that has been supplied. Perhaps I should get in touch with the family, I don’t know if that would yield any results though as tracking people down through newspapers is really tricky.

      • The subject of council house haunting relocations is a really interesting one.

        I’ve been working on an article about this. My research assistant in this just sent me, today, an analysis of 75 cases of Council-house hauntings. Which involved relocations, and other methods. Should make a good article.

        Dave

    • Interesting piece Hayley. Loved the Video! Especially your mum’s reaction.

      Have you published anything recently yourself Ciaran?

  18. Enjoyable replication Hayley!

    I’m intrigued by this concluding sentence however: “It smacks of being a case of people trying to move house and using the poltergeist idea to make it happen.” This is a similar statement to the hundreds on the net that are of the opinion the family are attempting to get moved. Why are people making these conclusion or proferring such opinions?

    Is it because of the apparent “dodgy” video? If so, then every single frame of video evidence for any other case should be immediately discounted without further investigation rather than saying “due to being unable to see a clear view of the furniture or discount the possibility of trickery we can’t make a definitive statement either way”. The better question is why were they filming that particular part of the room? Or, surely given there limited expertise why would we expect them to film phenomena perfectly?

    Is it because they live in a council house? I’m always criticised for apparently investigating alleged hauntings in stately homes, castles, abandoned prisons etc. Why can’t there be an alleged haunting in a council house.

    Is it because the phenomena can be easily recreated using trickery? The same argument has been presented for most paranormal phenomena – should none of it be investigated?

    Is it because the evidence for poltergeist phenomena throughout history is minimal or peppered with accusations (and proof) of fraud? If so, then this might be a more valid argument but still sceptics should tackle each case independently.

    Not having a rant solely at you, Hayley, as you’ve done what a sceptic should do – question the evidence. But I do get a little peeved at all these so-called “sceptics” and “investigators” forming biased opinions (or even drawing conclusions) solely on the basis of a report in The Sun, a brief interview with the mother, and a short video of supposed phenomena. There seems to be a lot of “jumping on the bandwagon” and immediately denouncing the case as fraud. Who knows what the outcome will be? Let’s not make conclusions or profer supposed expert opinions unless we have enough information to make one.

    • Hello Ciaran,

      Firstly, I didn’t state that it certainly was a case of the family creating this story just to get moved, I said it seemed that way. I wouldn’t reach a conclusion without conducting more research as I’m not that stupid.

      Secondly, you questioned if my thoughts in the article were based on the dodgy video. Well, yes they partly were, because it has been clearly faked. You then said that with that mindset every single frame of other video evidence should be discounted as evidence, but that’s illogical.

      Every video people claim shows some sort of evidence should be treated with equal skepticism and should be assessed indivudally on its merits. In this case it was clearly faked, Are you are suggesting it could be anything else?

      To simply dismiss every single video because one is an obvious fake would be closed minded.

      I’m not sure what you mean when you ask if it’s something to do with them living in a council house. However, it’s not uncommon for people who are desperate to move house who rent from the council or a housing association to use these sorts of things as an excuse. I live in a housing association house and know of other tenants who have done similar. It’s not very common now, but decades ago it was quite common.

      Again though, I didn’t state that this was a sound conclusion I had reached. Today, for example, it has gone to press that Derek Acorah has ‘cleansed’ the house, which opens up other possibilities, like a new TV show or book or tour or something. That sounds cynical I know, but I know too well how paranormal celebrities like Acorah use the media to their advantage.

      As for people ‘jumping on the bandwaggon’ and denouncing the case as fraud – that’s because no strong evidence has been supplied that suggests otherwise. You know how the burden of proof works, and all we have here is a dodgy video and Derek Acorah….

      Also, the idea that because this could be recreated through trickery, as has happened many times in the past, and should none be investigated because of this – I’m not even sure why you’re asking these questions? It’s almost patronising and I don’t appreciate being patronised.

      • Also, re: the ‘trying to move house by creating a ghost’ thing. Ask Tony Youens about this, as he once dealt with a case where tenants were trying to sue their landlord as he hadn’t told them about a ghost.

        Also, Dave Wood from ASSAP and PSI knows quite a bit about relocation hauntings from the Swindon area from decades gone by when it seemed a trend.

        I’m not saying this shouldn’t be investigated, what I’m saying is that is seems dodgy from the evidence that has been supplied. Perhaps I should get in touch with the family, I don’t know if that would yield any results though as tracking people down through newspapers is really tricky.

      • The subject of council house haunting relocations is a really interesting one.

        I’ve been working on an article about this. My research assistant in this just sent me, today, an analysis of 75 cases of Council-house hauntings. Which involved relocations, and other methods. Should make a good article.

        Dave

    • Interesting piece Hayley. Loved the Video! Especially your mum’s reaction.

      Have you published anything recently yourself Ciaran?

  19. You can sort of see me panicking as I try to pull it off of her foot (thus why you see the black thread waving around so much).

    Oh come on, the reason the black cotton was waving around so much is because Hayley was literally rolling around on the floor laughing because the chair had fallen on my foot and I couldnt make a noise as we were still filming ( Obviously if it had been Hayleys foot the chair had landed on there would have been no way I would have laughed……that much) πŸ™‚

  20. You can sort of see me panicking as I try to pull it off of her foot (thus why you see the black thread waving around so much).

    Oh come on, the reason the black cotton was waving around so much is because Hayley was literally rolling around on the floor laughing because the chair had fallen on my foot and I couldnt make a noise as we were still filming ( Obviously if it had been Hayleys foot the chair had landed on there would have been no way I would have laughed……that much) πŸ™‚

  21. Hi Hayley,

    All valid points but I think you miss mine. None of the questions were directed at you. There were questions referring to the 100s of conclusions/opinions being made throughout the internet and asking how are those conclusions being made. Sorry if you feel patronised but you shouldn’t otherwise it would mean I’m directing everything at you which is not the case.

    The reference about “dodgy video” is because in all the 1000s of videos presented as evidence, they could all be described as “dodgy” and if people are making snap judgements about this case on the basis of the video (which most of them are) then I’m saying they would have to dismiss every video of alleged paranormal evidence equally.

    • Okay I understand it’s not aimed at me, communications online are sometimes difficult to judge for tone etc.

      Obviously, I cannot talk for the 100’s of people you mention in your comment, but the reason it seems dodgy to me is the fact that it’s in The Sun, and the movement caught on film are trickey we have seen time and time again. It’s not even clever trickery.

      I’m not saying that simply because I could recreate it with some black cotton and my kitchen cupboard and chair means it was certainly 100% fake. However, I am saying that from the information I have to hand:

      – The Sun article/The Metro article etc.
      – The recent Derek Acorah article
      – The video
      – Experience of identical trickery in the past

      I believe this could be the case with this particular video. I haven’t simply looked at the video and decided it was dodgy because of the contents. I have make that suggestion based on the story around the video and the presentation of it as a whole story.

  22. Hi Hayley,

    All valid points but I think you miss mine. None of the questions were directed at you. There were questions referring to the 100s of conclusions/opinions being made throughout the internet and asking how are those conclusions being made. Sorry if you feel patronised but you shouldn’t otherwise it would mean I’m directing everything at you which is not the case.

    The reference about “dodgy video” is because in all the 1000s of videos presented as evidence, they could all be described as “dodgy” and if people are making snap judgements about this case on the basis of the video (which most of them are) then I’m saying they would have to dismiss every video of alleged paranormal evidence equally.

    • Okay I understand it’s not aimed at me, communications online are sometimes difficult to judge for tone etc.

      Obviously, I cannot talk for the 100’s of people you mention in your comment, but the reason it seems dodgy to me is the fact that it’s in The Sun, and the movement caught on film are trickey we have seen time and time again. It’s not even clever trickery.

      I’m not saying that simply because I could recreate it with some black cotton and my kitchen cupboard and chair means it was certainly 100% fake. However, I am saying that from the information I have to hand:

      – The Sun article/The Metro article etc.
      – The recent Derek Acorah article
      – The video
      – Experience of identical trickery in the past

      I believe this could be the case with this particular video. I haven’t simply looked at the video and decided it was dodgy because of the contents. I have make that suggestion based on the story around the video and the presentation of it as a whole story.

  23. For all the conclusions being made on the internet that are tending to make snap decisions declaring the case/video a fake there are probably a similar number making the same snap decisions and declaring it genuine.
    When we have a story dealing with the paranormal covered by the popular press we invariably get biased reporting, quotes placed out of context and pseudoscience. Looking at what evidence we do have in this particular case that Hayley has pointed out we make our initial conclusions based on what we know not what we don’t yet know and weigh that with what past experience tells us. This IMO supports the probability that from what we’ve seen it’s highly unlikely this is poltergeist phenomenon. Until this is investigated scientifically (I doubt it will be though) we’ll not get a full overview of the true nature of these events. Alleged poltergeist cases are rarely as simple as the press reports initially suggest.
    What we probably won’t see is any follow up that brings to light any subsequent evidence that either supports Ms Manning in her beliefs or casts doubt on the veracity of her claims.

  24. For all the conclusions being made on the internet that are tending to make snap decisions declaring the case/video a fake there are probably a similar number making the same snap decisions and declaring it genuine.
    When we have a story dealing with the paranormal covered by the popular press we invariably get biased reporting, quotes placed out of context and pseudoscience. Looking at what evidence we do have in this particular case that Hayley has pointed out we make our initial conclusions based on what we know not what we don’t yet know and weigh that with what past experience tells us. This IMO supports the probability that from what we’ve seen it’s highly unlikely this is poltergeist phenomenon. Until this is investigated scientifically (I doubt it will be though) we’ll not get a full overview of the true nature of these events. Alleged poltergeist cases are rarely as simple as the press reports initially suggest.
    What we probably won’t see is any follow up that brings to light any subsequent evidence that either supports Ms Manning in her beliefs or casts doubt on the veracity of her claims.

  25. Well when I saw the original video I thought it looked faker than a hookers orgasm but that doesn’t mean that it is fake does it? What of the possibility that a poltergeist was interacting in a way that it looks fake?

    That we immediately say something looks fake, shows our bias, IMO. We prefer to accept that there is no other explanation other than the mundane. If we take the attitude that everything is fake or has a normal rational explanation then why bother investigating in the first place?

    • Have you ever heard of Occams Razor? I’d suggest you go and look it up.

      • Yessum I know about the razor πŸ™‚ My point is that taking that view ALL the time we may miss something special. Nay-saying just for the sake of it can’t be good. In the so called ‘paranormal’ the idea seems to be that the ‘experiencers’ of the paranormal are merely having some kind of misunderstood mental processing going on and this seems to be the only direction that researchers investigate….Occams Razor anyone?

        You claim to have seen a ghost or spirit I believe. Would you say that you were having a failure of mental discernment or experiencing some unexplained physical effect? I would work on BOTH solutions, rather than just say that your brain failed you.

        You are not a very friendly septic are you?

      • If you know about Occams Razor you would know that it isn’t a case of “naysaying” all the time. It’s a case of taking each seperate case and judging it for its merits. Please come back with a different argument about how close minded we all are. This one is boring.

        Also, yes, I have commented in the past that I have seen what others was class as an apparition. I don’t call it an apparition. I call it an experience that I cannot explain. If you choose to call it a ghost, that’s your choice. I don’t know what a ghost is, there is no testable definition.

        As for not being friendly… there’s no need to get personal. That’s edging on ad hominem. Surely you have a stronger argument?

  26. Well when I saw the original video I thought it looked faker than a hookers orgasm but that doesn’t mean that it is fake does it? What of the possibility that a poltergeist was interacting in a way that it looks fake?

    That we immediately say something looks fake, shows our bias, IMO. We prefer to accept that there is no other explanation other than the mundane. If we take the attitude that everything is fake or has a normal rational explanation then why bother investigating in the first place?

    • Have you ever heard of Occams Razor? I’d suggest you go and look it up.

      • Yessum I know about the razor πŸ™‚ My point is that taking that view ALL the time we may miss something special. Nay-saying just for the sake of it can’t be good. In the so called ‘paranormal’ the idea seems to be that the ‘experiencers’ of the paranormal are merely having some kind of misunderstood mental processing going on and this seems to be the only direction that researchers investigate….Occams Razor anyone?

        You claim to have seen a ghost or spirit I believe. Would you say that you were having a failure of mental discernment or experiencing some unexplained physical effect? I would work on BOTH solutions, rather than just say that your brain failed you.

        You are not a very friendly septic are you?

      • If you know about Occams Razor you would know that it isn’t a case of “naysaying” all the time. It’s a case of taking each seperate case and judging it for its merits. Please come back with a different argument about how close minded we all are. This one is boring.

        Also, yes, I have commented in the past that I have seen what others was class as an apparition. I don’t call it an apparition. I call it an experience that I cannot explain. If you choose to call it a ghost, that’s your choice. I don’t know what a ghost is, there is no testable definition.

        As for not being friendly… there’s no need to get personal. That’s edging on ad hominem. Surely you have a stronger argument?

  27. We go with the evidence Andy H and what fits in with the laws of physics. In this particular case and certainly with the video evidence there is an understandable tendency to err on the side of fraud. IMO cases such as this should be properly investigated by those with the experience to do so using proper (as far as possible) scientific methods.

  28. We go with the evidence Andy H and what fits in with the laws of physics. In this particular case and certainly with the video evidence there is an understandable tendency to err on the side of fraud. IMO cases such as this should be properly investigated by those with the experience to do so using proper (as far as possible) scientific methods.

  29. I was one of those people who immediately came to the conclusion that the video was faked. Before I even watched the video, the ‘story’ just didnt ring true. It wasnt so much as what was said as it could well be full of misquotes ( We have all been misquoted in the press lol) but it was because it was in the paper at all. We have had many people contact us in the past who are genuinely scared of what is happening to them in their own home. Not one of those cases went to a newspaper to sell their story…and I can honestly say it was something that didnt even come up. They just wanted answers with no hidden agenda and thats what made what they had to say all the more believable. The actually believed their home to be haunted. Perhaps it does make me bias but I grew up on an ordinary council estate in a council house and myself and my family were witness to countless strange phenomena which spanned over a 30 year period!!! Not one of us went running to a newspaper..we just put up with it and hell, I even thought it was normal when I was a kid and its one of the reasons I research it today and its also the reason I take reports seriously. It may not be real but to the family thats going through it….its very real…..unless of course they’ve gone to a newspaper too!!

  30. I was one of those people who immediately came to the conclusion that the video was faked. Before I even watched the video, the ‘story’ just didnt ring true. It wasnt so much as what was said as it could well be full of misquotes ( We have all been misquoted in the press lol) but it was because it was in the paper at all. We have had many people contact us in the past who are genuinely scared of what is happening to them in their own home. Not one of those cases went to a newspaper to sell their story…and I can honestly say it was something that didnt even come up. They just wanted answers with no hidden agenda and thats what made what they had to say all the more believable. The actually believed their home to be haunted. Perhaps it does make me bias but I grew up on an ordinary council estate in a council house and myself and my family were witness to countless strange phenomena which spanned over a 30 year period!!! Not one of us went running to a newspaper..we just put up with it and hell, I even thought it was normal when I was a kid and its one of the reasons I research it today and its also the reason I take reports seriously. It may not be real but to the family thats going through it….its very real…..unless of course they’ve gone to a newspaper too!!

  31. Chris Jensen Romer

    Excellent replication. I have nothing useful to add to the discussion at the moment, but I’m really looking forward to Dave Wood’s article — I used to live with a Housing officer years ago, and I did one case recently involving a distressed tenant in private sector housing.

  32. Chris Jensen Romer

    Excellent replication. I have nothing useful to add to the discussion at the moment, but I’m really looking forward to Dave Wood’s article — I used to live with a Housing officer years ago, and I did one case recently involving a distressed tenant in private sector housing.

  33. They Are Seven

    Nice ‘re-make’ of the video. and I agree with the ideas said above about treating each case on it own merit, I have to say when i first saw the video it did seem, erm setup. or at least very luckly. not saying that proves it to be fake. but it would be more interesting to see a “FULL” video, ie: a good hour or two before, hour or two after, and a full visible floor/door ect. maybe even multi camras from different points of view πŸ™‚ but that is where my science sides kicks in..lol

    well still a good remake of the video, it does go to show how easy it is to take “ghosts” and all on videos. and rather easy too.

    weldone on the effort πŸ™‚

  34. They Are Seven

    Nice ‘re-make’ of the video. and I agree with the ideas said above about treating each case on it own merit, I have to say when i first saw the video it did seem, erm setup. or at least very luckly. not saying that proves it to be fake. but it would be more interesting to see a “FULL” video, ie: a good hour or two before, hour or two after, and a full visible floor/door ect. maybe even multi camras from different points of view πŸ™‚ but that is where my science sides kicks in..lol

    well still a good remake of the video, it does go to show how easy it is to take “ghosts” and all on videos. and rather easy too.

    weldone on the effort πŸ™‚

  35. A very well reasoned, rational response and analysis from the Polterwotsit team IMO. It’s good to see the voice of reason from the likes of this forum and others like it.

  36. A very well reasoned, rational response and analysis from the Polterwotsit team IMO. It’s good to see the voice of reason from the likes of this forum and others like it.

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